Comments on: Dvorak Thinkpad http://www.syzygytech.com/2007/04/19/dvorak-thinkpad/ Blog of Bob Sun, 20 Dec 2009 09:43:58 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: Franklin http://www.syzygytech.com/2007/04/19/dvorak-thinkpad/comment-page-1/#comment-6236 Franklin Fri, 18 Sep 2009 16:01:22 +0000 http://www.syzygytech.com/2007/04/19/dvorak-thinkpad/#comment-6236 I tried the same on my IBM T60 and I came across the same problem: the key mechanisms are reversed for some keys so reorganizing just doesn't work if you want to switch to Dvorak. I tried the same on my IBM T60 and I came across the same problem: the key mechanisms are reversed for some keys so reorganizing just doesn’t work if you want to switch to Dvorak.

]]> By: WolfiE http://www.syzygytech.com/2007/04/19/dvorak-thinkpad/comment-page-1/#comment-470 WolfiE Thu, 18 Sep 2008 23:31:22 +0000 http://www.syzygytech.com/2007/04/19/dvorak-thinkpad/#comment-470 Been there, tried that (t40). The mouse-nipple on the keyboard makes it impossible, as the surrounding keys have a cutout to clear this. The way to put the keys on properly is this (learned from much trial and error): 1. assemble the little plastic pieces, until they lay flat if placed on your desk. 2. get this piece so that the little bar going all the way through is at the top (closest to the screen) 3. careful now. put this piece at the bottom of the key, and slide it upwards about 2mm towards the screen. it should then "pop" up nicely. 4. hook the top of the key over, make sure it is in the centre. 5. firmly press the key in, until it clicks together. hope this makes sense. little hint : try a dvorak overlay, much less hassle, and you can switch layout in about a second. not sure if anyone makes a thinkpad overlay but it seems likely to me. Been there, tried that (t40). The mouse-nipple on the keyboard makes it impossible, as the surrounding keys have a cutout to clear this. The way to put the keys on properly is this (learned from much trial and error):

1. assemble the little plastic pieces, until they lay flat if placed on your desk.
2. get this piece so that the little bar going all the way through is at the top (closest to the screen)
3. careful now. put this piece at the bottom of the key, and slide it upwards about 2mm towards the screen. it should then “pop” up nicely.
4. hook the top of the key over, make sure it is in the centre.
5. firmly press the key in, until it clicks together.

hope this makes sense. little hint : try a dvorak overlay, much less hassle, and you can switch layout in about a second. not sure if anyone makes a thinkpad overlay but it seems likely to me.

]]> By: ugh http://www.syzygytech.com/2007/04/19/dvorak-thinkpad/comment-page-1/#comment-390 ugh Wed, 30 Jul 2008 07:37:35 +0000 http://www.syzygytech.com/2007/04/19/dvorak-thinkpad/#comment-390 ah, ok, I now see what OP was talking about. This is strange! Back to qwerty. :| ah, ok, I now see what OP was talking about. This is strange! Back to qwerty. :|

]]> By: ugh http://www.syzygytech.com/2007/04/19/dvorak-thinkpad/comment-page-1/#comment-389 ugh Wed, 30 Jul 2008 07:33:56 +0000 http://www.syzygytech.com/2007/04/19/dvorak-thinkpad/#comment-389 I just tried to rearrange the keys on my T61. Unfortunately there are 4 keys that just won't snap back on. For these 4 keys, both the scissor mechanism underneath, and the keycaps look perfectly fine -- and I've tried snapping the keycaps onto other keyspaces and vice versa. Seems like these 4 are just not compatible. I'd caution others on reorganizing their keyboards! I just tried to rearrange the keys on my T61. Unfortunately there are 4 keys that just won’t snap back on. For these 4 keys, both the scissor mechanism underneath, and the keycaps look perfectly fine — and I’ve tried snapping the keycaps onto other keyspaces and vice versa. Seems like these 4 are just not compatible. I’d caution others on reorganizing their keyboards!

]]> By: syzygy http://www.syzygytech.com/2007/04/19/dvorak-thinkpad/comment-page-1/#comment-363 syzygy Thu, 03 Jul 2008 21:12:28 +0000 http://www.syzygytech.com/2007/04/19/dvorak-thinkpad/#comment-363 I do not know about the T43, but I do have an X41 that has the same problem. My Dvorak typing has gotten good enough that I can touch type rather well, so I didn't move the keys on the X41. I do not know about the T43, but I do have an X41 that has the same problem. My Dvorak typing has gotten good enough that I can touch type rather well, so I didn’t move the keys on the X41.

]]> By: Ryan http://www.syzygytech.com/2007/04/19/dvorak-thinkpad/comment-page-1/#comment-362 Ryan Thu, 03 Jul 2008 18:22:57 +0000 http://www.syzygytech.com/2007/04/19/dvorak-thinkpad/#comment-362 Do you know if this applies to T40 Series(in specific, T43)? Do you know if this applies to T40 Series(in specific, T43)?

]]> By: Jeremy http://www.syzygytech.com/2007/04/19/dvorak-thinkpad/comment-page-1/#comment-188 Jeremy Sat, 15 Dec 2007 21:11:48 +0000 http://www.syzygytech.com/2007/04/19/dvorak-thinkpad/#comment-188 My lenovo n100 laptop has the same odd keyboard clip issue. Oddly enough, so do both of the traditional Logitech PS2 keyboards I own, and exactly the same keys. I'd love to know if there's some reason for this, but I can't think of what it would be. My lenovo n100 laptop has the same odd keyboard clip issue. Oddly enough, so do both of the traditional Logitech PS2 keyboards I own, and exactly the same keys. I’d love to know if there’s some reason for this, but I can’t think of what it would be.

]]> By: syzygy http://www.syzygytech.com/2007/04/19/dvorak-thinkpad/comment-page-1/#comment-22 syzygy Mon, 30 Apr 2007 16:08:00 +0000 http://www.syzygytech.com/2007/04/19/dvorak-thinkpad/#comment-22 Putting them back on was not a problem. I imagine if I pop them off too many times the little tabs would break eventually. I checked a T41p today and it has the same problem as my T30. I think for me, stickers will be the best solution until I can touch type on Dvorak. The keys around the trackpoint are a problem, but clipping them is something I would be willing to do. Putting them back on was not a problem. I imagine if I pop them off too many times the little tabs would break eventually. I checked a T41p today and it has the same problem as my T30. I think for me, stickers will be the best solution until I can touch type on Dvorak.

The keys around the trackpoint are a problem, but clipping them is something I would be willing to do.

]]> By: brian http://www.syzygytech.com/2007/04/19/dvorak-thinkpad/comment-page-1/#comment-19 brian Wed, 25 Apr 2007 23:24:54 +0000 http://www.syzygytech.com/2007/04/19/dvorak-thinkpad/#comment-19 i started moving the keys around without a problem...that is until i came to G H & B around the trackball. I think I would have to shave the keys for them to fit. i started moving the keys around without a problem…that is until i came to G H & B around the trackball. I think I would have to shave the keys for them to fit.

]]> By: brian http://www.syzygytech.com/2007/04/19/dvorak-thinkpad/comment-page-1/#comment-18 brian Wed, 25 Apr 2007 17:42:09 +0000 http://www.syzygytech.com/2007/04/19/dvorak-thinkpad/#comment-18 were you able to put it back to its original qwerty status? were you able to put it back to its original qwerty status?

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